Emmett: So how are you feeling?
Vic: Fit as a fiddle and ready for love. Why do you ask?
Vic: Listen, why are you so interested in me all of the sudden?
Emmett: I was just wondering.
Vic: Bullshit. You boys never talk to anyone over forty unless you have to.
Emmett: I think I have it.
Vic: ‘It’ doesn’t mean what it used to…
Emmett: What they said is that people still…
Vic: Die, all the time. But they die from other things, too. You can think about that.
Emmett: I just can’t believe this is happening to me. I mean I’m not promiscuous.
Vic: Let me tell you about promiscuous. ‘Promiscuous’ is anyone having more sex than you.
Emmett: I thought I was been safe. Careful.
Vic: Sex isn’t careful. If it is, you’re doing it wrong. It’s messy. And it’s human. And it’s mixed up with other things. It’s a genie that won’t stay in the bottle. Listen, Emmett, if you think you made a mistake, move on. And accept it like a man.
Yup. I’ve always liked Michael and Justin’s frenemies relationship. I think, yes, Michael often lashed out in the first 2 seasons out of jealousy but he’s also been kind to Justin. He didn’t turn his back on him that night and tried to help him in the ways he knew, which isn’t easy for him seeing as he’s slowly losing his best friend to Justin. Besides Justin also moves in with Deb, and as an only child that’s kind of hard to deal, no matter how old you are. But there’s been many times when Michael has had his back and defended him against Brian.
And you’re right about that scene. He was explaining how Brian treats his toy boys, to give him a head’s up and to protect him so that Justin won’t feel like he was feeling.
He’s not always been a good little Michael, but often he’s had Justin’s back.
Ted: Nice going on the gift. Couldn’t have been more perfect…
Ted: Yeah, David’s present didn’t stand a chance. But then again, neither did he.
Brian: Fuck off!
Ted: You just can’t help yourself, can you? You have to make sure that Michael regresses permanently to the age of twelve. He’s thirty, for Christ’s sake, Brian. Don’t you think it’s time you let him go?
Brian: Well, I’ll tell you what. I will if you will.
Brian: Tell him that you’ve been in love with him for years.
Ted: What are you talking about?
Brian: Don’t act so innocent. You know what I mean! The boys saw your pictures. They saw your little shrine to Mikey when you were in your coma. Of course, I always knew. So, as I said, you let him go and so will I. Ladies first.
He’s absolutely all of those things that you summed up but sometimes he does and says things that aren’t very nice or that hurts people. Like for instance, he can play games with people and manipulate them in ways that benefit him. He’s often crude in his rejections and is sometimes honest to the point it can hurt. He gets away with it because he’s attractive and charming, but he still does some things that aren’t exactly proper.
We all know he cares and has a big heart, but he’s not very good at expressing his emotions. He compensates his emotional constipation by putting up a tough front and acting like he doesn’t care. In turn he hurts people, sometimes intentionally, often not.
You’ll always have complaints about characters. They’re written quite brilliantly as they are realistic. There’s no hero and no villain in the story, just characters with good and bad sides, just like humans.
This is a different mod (Sarah) answering now.
I completely agree with you that what Michael said to Brian about “leaving Justin lying there” was wrong. Absolutely, there’s no question. Having said that, I highly doubt that Michael would have actually left Justin lying there had he been at the scene of the bashing. I couldn’t see that happening. He’s not evil, he just frequently speaks and reacts without thinking.
I think one of the reasons people are so easily able to forgive Brian for what he does is because of his “no apologies no regrets” mantra. While I do respect Brian’s stance, I think it is as much of a defense mechanism as anything else. It’s sort of like saying “If I tell you I’m an asshole, then you can’t blame me when I act like one.” Because of this, people are quick to write off Brian’s negative behaviour as: ”Oh, that’s just Brian being Brian”.
Conversely, Michael doesn’t adopt that mantra. He appears much more innocent than Brian. I believe Brian even says to him at one point: “No one does dewy-eyed innocent better than you”. I suppose people see his wrongdoings as more unforgivable and more dishonest because they come from someone who labels himself as the “semi-cute boy next door type”, rather than as the heartless rebel.
But really, the way they choose to label themselves and the masks they choose to wear shouldn’t and doesn’t change the content of their actions. They both do and say hurtful things to others and to each other. They’re human and because of the depth of their friendship, and the fact that they recognize the flawed nature of that humanity, they’ve always been able to forgive each other.
That’s just my opinion :)
Yeah, that’s what it says on the website but the problem is that Samba doesn’t sound like the song in the scene. Either it’s a mix of the song, or another song.
Thanks for helping though :)
Can anyone help?
S1, episode 12 … scene with Michael and Brian with the balls on their head, what song is that?